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Disc Review



Innova Champion
KC Pro Roc

Type: Midrange
Diameter: 21.7cm
Available Weights: 173-180g
Plastic: Innova KC Pro

KC Roc
Flight Rating Category Value What Innova says:
The Roc is the number one professional mid-range driver. It is very reliable at the high speeds that pros throw. Roc is a very straight to slightly overstable flyer with good carry. It ages slowly, becoming an excellent slow turning disc as it gets worn.
Maximum Flight Speed 6.0
Resistance To High Speed Turn 5.0
Amount Of Low Speed Fade 4.0
Propensity To Fade 4.0
Glide 5.0
Relative Distance 5.0
Qualitative Analysis Value
Recommended Skill Level 2.5
Predictability 3.5
Uniformity Of Break In Period 5.0
Overall Durability 3.0 Description of the Ratings System.


Player Reviews

Posted 03-14-08
Submitted by KVDiscPro 21803 kvdiscpro@hotmail.com
PDGA: 21803
Location: Dallas
Level: Pro
Avg Drive: 400
Disc Weights: 175
Review: now i know why the pros carry 4-5 of these. i have been told to step up to the pros, learn to throw a roc. well i have played with KC Rocs for a month now. i go to the course with 2 rocs and my putter, and i try to compete with some am's. dude, my throw technique has grown more in the last month then in the 4 years i have been playing. learn to throw a roc!!! hyzer, anny, flat, low, high, sidearm, make yourself learn this, it has improved my overall distance by atleast 30-40 feet. i see now how Coda,Nolan and other pros put so much spin on a disc, with less effort than most of us...its all about the spin, release and angle (and your wrist). seriuosly any DG'r wanting better technique and more D, throw a roc on your local course, even though it hard and you look like a begginner, then come back in a few weeks, and teel me your story of how far your throwing with less effort........
Posted 11-19-07
Submitted by Mumachog Location: Wickham/ Cross Farms CT
Level: Beginner
Avg Drive: 300
Disc Weights: 169
Review: I've only been throwing for about 3 months now but I got the bug bad. I would like to consider myself as entering the Am level but I probably still have a ways to go. When it was time to replace my 150 dx shark beginner midrange I picked up a KC roc. Being on a tight DG budget I whent witht the pro hoping it would last me longer than the dx. I liked how it threw the first week or two but it got super flippy super fast. The courses I play are pretty woodsy but seriously... I don't want to buy a new utility disc every couple of months. I can still use the KC for short approaches (50-125ish) but if I put more than 50% on it its gone right and rolling. I picked up a Super (SE) Roc to replace it. Hopefully that will last longer. If not, I'll have to start exploring the midranges that are offered in champ or star. You would think Innova would sell A LOT of champ Rocs if they made them available other than CFR...
Posted 11-21-06
Submitted by JD Hazel JHBLADER86@aol.com
Location: Bowling Green
Level: Amateur
Avg Drive: 350
Disc Weights: 172
Review: I'll probably receive death threats, but the Roc is a piece of junk! I have tried throwing both the DX and the KC Pro and the only thing good this disc has to offer me is worm burns. I have been playing nearly a yr and 1/2 and everyone said I should start throwing Rocs now. So I went out and bought 2 (DX and KC Pro) and this is the most overrated disc in the game. I do not see what the big deal is. I try to throw it straight and it turns over and worm burns. Anhyzer then it just crashes, and hyzer it straightens out on me. There is no conistency with this disc whatsoever! Most people will say "you're just not ready to throw a Roc." Well I can certainly throw every other disc made so its definitely the Roc. Do not believe the hype! This disc is terrible. I'll stick with my Buzzz and Gator over this junk disc any day!
Posted: 05-18-04
Submitted by Matt Davis
The KC Roc is a large diameter, slow, straight to stable mid-range made from rigid "KC Pro" plastic. The Roc is a modestly overstable, mid-speed, mid-range driver. It has excellent glide for a midrange. Perhaps the greatest thing about Rocs is that the change from its high-speed/high-spin stage of flight, to the low-speed/low-spin stage, is extremely gradual. Brand new ones do a very soft left curve; heavily beat ones do a soft right (RHBH). Unlike numerous other discs, you would be hard-pressed to isolate the point in either flight path where the disc does a sudden bend. The rigid KC plastic is the one to buy. DX wears too fast, and too unpredictably, and the champion plastic is freakishly expensive (Innova, cut us non-collectors a little slack, willya?).
Posted: 10-21-03
Submitted by HipHopWong
I'm an intermediate to advanced right handed Amateur. What can you say about this disc that hasn't been said before? A lot of people describe this as a midrange disc. You can use it as an approach disc but for me I tend to see it as a shorter, straight driver. This is not a disc for max distance but the best for line drive short drives. When thrown hard and fast this disc goes straight in the direction it was released. If you throw it low it wont fade at all with a slight skip at the end. If you throw it soft and higher, it will turn slightly at the end. On long holes where your second shot is a 150'-300' straight look at the basket, there is no better disc to use. Great for short anhyzer drives. Very predictable and good in the wind. Many people will tell you that if you play the fairways with a Roc you can almost always get par by staying out of trouble with your long range drivers. If you tend to fall into trouble with your long drivers, try playing your favorite course with just a Roc and your putter and watch your scores drop like crazy. The top pro's always talk about learning accuracy and control before distance.
If you read about what the top pro's throw you'll often see people talk about Ontario Roc's and Classic Roc's and other older, discontinued Roc's but my feeling is that although they may be different and nice, why bother getting hooked on a disc that you may never find if you lose it? If they were so much better than why isn't Innova still manufacturing it? My advice is to throw KC Pro and other available Rocs and that way if you want to buy more for practice or if you lose your favorite, your game wont fall apart due to you not being able to find that rare discontinued disc.
Posted: 8-07-02
Submitted by Ryan R. <RtypeX@aol.com>
I have become a Roc'er! This disc is the easiest disc in my bag to throw straight. Keep in mind my KC Roc (178g) is now nicely worn in. Thrown hard and with a little hyzer, this disc will go straight almost until it hits the ground! I can get it out there about 300-325ft. I am surprised by the lateness of fade almost every time I throw it. Even when I throw it a bit high it still will hold that same straight line. Has similar stability to my Z MRV (173g) early in flight, but the MRV will start to fade alot sooner. (The MRV is barely worn, probably a factor) The KC Roc will also hold a good hyzer line and a decent anhyzer if I make sure to snap it. The plastic seems a bit hard and "chippy", but as long as it keeps flying like it does I dont mind.
Posted: 7-20-01
By Blake Takkunen - the Webmaster - <blake@discgolf.com>
My Review:
The KC Roc is a medium speed slightly overstable long midrange. The KC plastic is similar to that on the KC Aviar, stiffer than the DX plastic and more resiliant to scuff damage. The KC model is a bit more overstable than the DX model but less overstable than the SE model. Thrown with the flat and with the nose down, this disc will cut through the wind with a straight flight path. If you need a bit more distance, throw it hard at a hyzer angle and watch it flatten out and s-curve. The KC Roc's turns over more easily than the SE Roc so finesse is important. The KC Roc does have a bit of low speed fade, similar to that of an MRV, but very managable, especially for a disc as good in the wind as this one. I currently throw this disc in the 250-300 ft. range so I carry a slower, shorter midrange when I don't need the distance and want more accuracy. The plastic is easy to grip and feels nice but I would prefer it to be a bit more resiliant to chips and gouges like the KC drivers. It does however, wear more evenly than the SE plastic with less chance of warping.
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