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Innova Champion
Pro Teebird-L

Type: Driver
Diameter: 21.2cm
Available Weights: 165-175g
Plastic: Innova Pro

SE Teebird
Flight Rating Category Value What Innova says:
The TeeBird is our straightest ultra long range driver. The TeeBird is the brother of the Eagle with similar speed and distance, slightly more glide and a straighter flight characteristic.
Maximum Flight Speed NA
Resistance To High Speed Turn NA
Amount Of Low Speed Fade NA
Propensity To Fade NA
Glide NA
Relative Distance NA
Qualitative Analysis Value
Recommended Skill Level NA
Predictability NA
Uniformity Of Break In Period NA
Overall Durability NA Description of the Ratings System.

Player Reviews

Posted 07-23-07
Submitted by John Location: Kingsport, TN
Level: Amateur
Avg Drive: 400
Disc Weights: 172
Review: Great fairway driver. I use it for just about any hole at or under 400' where I can see the basket and it's a birdie machine. If you put some snap on it and throw it with an appropriate amount of io, it will do whatever you want. Great for short drives and long approaches. Works well backhand and sidearm, although I mainly throw backhand unless I need just a slight fade right at the end. Highly recommend this disc.
Posted 01-12-07
Submitted by Luke S info@iowadiscgolf.org
Disc Weights: 160s?
Review: I found a "special edition" teebird-L in the used pile at the local disc store. I am fond of discs that feel nicely broken in, since I don't like throwing spanking-new plastic. This thing was quite beat-in and I at first thought it was glow.

I can tell you, this is one understable disc. It is fast as heck and really understable...I'll only throw it into a strong tailwind and even then with tons of spin and hyzer so it flattens for a net straight shot. Not a particularly long disc, but its turn is so predictable and it's so nicely broken in, it makes a great disc for get-out-of-a-pickle upshots, second shots or 150'-250' straight up the pipe with no room on either side.

Definitely has its place. I think you have to know how to control a lightweight, understable disc to have any sort of rhythm.
Posted 06-06-06
Submitted by Josh M Disc Weights: 168
Review: I have a teebird glo but since the only course around is an object one and not a basket it got messed up pretty quick. I normally throw a 175 pro wraith but I wanted to try the teebird-l. A friend of mine got one and I stole it for a week. I found that I can over power it which make its slowly dive to the right thru the whole flight. 2nd throw went straight and true out to 250' with very little fade at the end. Much less than my teebird. I plan on getting this in the star plastic the next time I buy discs because it is so amazingly straight when it is still in good shape. A great high accuracy driver for both mid- and high- powered arms alike
Posted 01-13-06
Submitted by Will T willt@discgolfreview.com
PDGA: 25979
Location: Seattle
Level: Amateur
Avg Drive: 325
Disc Weights: 154, 165
Review: I have been using Champion Teebirds as my primary drivers. I have two and I would consider them my first choice on most drives. If I had any complaint though about a Teebird it is the fade at the end of the flight. Sometimes I don't want or need that fade. I had read about the Teebird-L and thought it might be the answer. I pretty much throw discs under 170gr and the only TLs I could find were champion fundraiser discs. I could never find one under about 173gr, too heavy for me. Then I noticed they released Proline TLs. Now I was REALLY interested as the Pro plastic is my favorite. Well I got lucky and in a tournament player's pack was a 169gr Pro Teebird-L. First throw and I was very happy!! This is the straightest disc I have thrown. Want a Teebird with little to no fade? Get a TL! I have several of these now, with two that are a permanent part of my bag. I have a 165gr that is my straight disc. It is fairly new and I try to protect it, meaning I don't throw it around trees or other things that like to destabilize discs. When these are new(ish) they will act like a Teebird, hold a beautiful straight line and then fade very little. Once they get beat up though they will definitely start turning over. I have a 154gr that I use for turn over shots. This disc is beat up pretty good and has become very flippy. I can get it to do really nice turnovers. This is a GREAT disc for me. I have every shot I need covered now. I use my Champion Teebird when I need a fade shot or something that CAN'T turnover (OB), the newer Pro TL for straight/open shots and beat Pro TL for turnovers/trees/tunnels.
Posted: 4-08-05
Submitted by Joe kg4wmp@juno.com
Pro Teebird-L
Innova's numbers:
Speed: 7 Glide: 5 Turn: 0 Fade: 1

I am an intermediate amateur, my drive is about 300 ft max, so I don't have a big arm. Picked one of these up today @ 172 grams and thought I would list my initial opinion on it. From what I understand, the "L" is a longer less stable and therefore straighter flier over the standard Pro Teebird.

So far I have only about 25 drives with this, but most of them have been much better than I expected. This would be a great newbie driver as it doesn't take a big arm to get a great straight long floating drive. As with all discs, there is a trade off for this. Like the Pro Starfire (may be just mine, it's kinda light) or Champ Sidewinder, too much arm will yield a disc that keeps going to the right till you hit mother earth. A higher weight may yield different results. But! Toss this baby out smooth and flat (or maybe even tilted hyzer a bit) and you get a great shot with little fade at the end.

The pro plastic on this as well as my Starfire have been holding up well. The few "hangnails" I got thanks to the Carolina pine trees here were easily fixed good as new with either a slight wave of a lighter for the smaller ones, or a smooth touch of sandpaper for the bigger ones.

The overall shot is similar to the drives I have been getting from the Pro Starfire, except straighter. If you compare the numbers Innova agrees with me, go figure. The starfire would end up in the same place as the teebird, but the teebird will do it in a straighter flight.
Posted: 4-28-02
By Blake Takkunen - the Webmaster - <blake@discgolf.com>
Version: SE Teebird "TL"
My Review:
The SE Teebird TL is a fast, slightly overstable driver. The TL differs quite a bit from the T. The TL is slower, has less resistance to turnover, greater propensity to fade but similar absolute fade, and more glide than the T. This makes the SE TL more suited for higher booming s-curves vs. the more line-drive s-curve to stable flight of the SE T. I have been told that the "L" refers to the TL being part Teebird and part Leopard. I don't know for sure, but I can say that the TL is an easier disc to throw. It is a very long, gliding disc that doesn't require a huge arm to get it out there. I compare the flight path of the SE TL to that of a KC Eagle but slower and a little more gradual. I would also compare it to a KC Gazelle but with more D and a little more left-right tendencies during it's flight. The SE TL will hold most lines, from hyzer to long turnover as well as being a good choice for flattened hyzers or slight anhyzer shots. It probably doesn't have the stability to hold up into a strong headwind, but it is stable enough to make a good choice for a sidearm driver. This disc is similar in distance to the KC Teebird, but it tends to favor a very different line. Although this disc might be a bit too overstable for many beginners, it is definitely a good entry driver into Innova's "bird name" line of longer-flying, more overstable drivers.
Posted: 07-17-01
By Blake Takkunen - the Webmaster - <blake@discgolf.com>
Version: SE Teebird "T"
My Review:
The SE Teebird is a fast, overstable driver. This disc flies very far if you have the snap to do it. The Teebird is great for long s-curves on open holes. It is fairly overstable but might not be overstable enough to be great in all wind situations. It is often compared to the Eagle and I agree the two are fairly similar, but there are some important differences. The Teebird is a bit harder to turn over than the Eagle but also fades less left near the end of its flight. I would compare its low speed overstability to that of a new Cyclone. The Teebird is very fast out of the hand. Speedwise, I felt it to be faster than the Polaris LS, Gazelle, and Cheetah, but slower than some of Innova's newer drivers such as the Valkyrie and Firebird. The SE version seems a hair slower and easier to turn over than the KC version and has a touch better glide. For a while I carried a KC and an SE in the same weight and used them on the same type of open distance shot but I chose the KC when I wanted to end up left and the SE when I preferred to end up to the right. The Teebird in general takes a lot of snap to get it going but I would say the SE version is a little more forgiving than the KC and CE versions as it glides a little better and doesn't drop off as abruptly if it doesn't get enough snap for an s-curve. If you have the arm for it, this disc will go very far but if not I'd probably go with a disc that is a little more forgiving and user friendly (something that will give better average difference even if a little bit of maximum distance is sacrificed). I do agree that this disc holds a straighter line than the Eagle, but I generally saved it for more open holes and threw a less overstable disc on tight, treelined holes. Beginners may find this disc a bit hard to control and easy to stall out.
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