I threw their first driver Northman, Pohjan poika in Finnish, today in 163, 175 and 176. The disc that it resembles most is a Destroyer but these will be available from 161 in premium plastic. The great thing about it is the 2 cm wing that's way easier to grip than other fast drivers. This feels at least as fast as a Wraith but I'd say Destroyer is a closer match. The glide ain't the best but it's not shabby either. I know I've been spoiled by 145 Boss so the glide is in Wraith territory maybe even Destroyer. The four drives I got with them showed no signs of flipping whatsoever. Even running at full speed for several steps before Brinster hopping. I think this will handle headwinds easily. How hard remains to be seen. In normal conditions heavy ones should behave nicely. Presuming the plastic wears. It's great and stiff even in 163. Durability should not be an issue. for normal conditions I prefer 163 out of those.
I had thrown three rounds on the ski jumping hill course and 40 minutes field practice and was cold. I got 10' more with a 145 Boss on lowish golf s-curve than the 163 on anny distance line. Even that moved so little that it's just fine on open holes. I threw it a bit too high for max D. It flew 377'. Considering my fatigue and 37F weather it's great D especially for such a short winged easy to grip disc.
Forehands are not stressful with this disc. Avoiding flipping is a no brainer. Of fast drivers this has the most HSS compared to less than Champion Xcal/Max LSS meathooking. Not a squirrel when new by any means. Absolute HSS of speed 11 and over has only those two and Forces competing. Force in ESP when new seems fairly similar but Northman fades noticeably less although not a lot less. The Northman has a fairly high power requirement. Not a noob disc for anything else than curves and managing OAT and not learning from it.
It's supposed to be released for sale in March 2010. Westside Discs is run by Janne Penttilä a long time disc golf retailer and player from Helsinki, Finland. Based on just 4 throws I guesstimate the numbers per Innova to be speed 11.5 or 12, glide 4 or 4.5, turn 0 or low decimals on overstable side without wind, fade 3.5 to 4 probably on the lower side. I wish I would've been able to throw other discs side by side to get a more accurate picture. On the other hand I don't know if production versions are gonna be similar and it's probably March before I know.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.